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  1. #1
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    no garage floors and floating toilets

    HELP!

    Here is what I have, and I think it must be something I did. Client has a detached garage with loft. Garage is built like many around here - foundation walls rise 8" above the slab floor to keep framing up high. When I began, I made the building as a garage, which gave me the stem wall I was looking for. Generated just fine including foundation. Added two rooms inside the existing garage and VOILA - floors don't show in overview. Toilet, shower, inside wall and interior wall mouldings are all floating - you can see these floating elements in the section renders - I have attached them following this post.

    This is a simple project that is giving me trouble. Can anyone either a) figure what I did wrong or b) give me a workaround?

    Thanks!
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    Rich C. SDSInc
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    Rich:

    see this thread, maybe they are related problems

    http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?t=29666



    Another thought is that the slab floor is showing on the next floor when you the overview camera there ?

    If so, you may have to create a "floor" using a room polyline converted to a polyline solid and assigned concrete as a floor material ?

    Lew
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    Lew,

    Good thought - that would show the floor in the overview, but the toilet, wall and door are still floating. That is what I need to fix.

    The other post you indicated had a lot of good information, but I couldn't say it was exactly what I was experiencing.

    Thank you for your prompt reply.
    Rich C. SDSInc
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    Lew - all ceiling heights are the same in my model, which is why I posted seperately. Could it be the same issue?
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    Rich,

    Looks like the floors in the rooms need to be lowered to the same level as the garage floor. Approx the 8" you refereed too.

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    Rich:

    If the ceiling heights are all the same and they are > 72" then i's probably a separate issue

    Lew
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  8. #8
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    Check the room specification details...If I have (under the "structure" tab) "floor for this room is supplied by the foundation "room" from the floor below" checked, the floors will not show on the camera view. Try UNchecking this for each room and see if that helps. <just guessing here??>

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    Can you post the plan? It looks like the threshold for the man door is on top of the 8" high stem wall. Something funny there.
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    Is the dressing room/bath on raised found. or slab?
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    I think every room has to me named garage,then build the foundation..
    Just guessing but I think that is the problem..
    You may have to redo the floating doors.
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
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    Thank you all for the input. Here are some answers and a post of the plan:

    • Yes I did try checking the "foundation room below" tab. This will then show the floor, but it shows it at the elevatied height not the correct -8" height.
    • Yes the two rooms have floor heights properly set at -8".
    • Actually, the exterior doors are NOT floating. They are setting at the right height relative to the slab.
    • All ceilings were set at 9' for all rooms.
    • Note that the stairs reach properly to the slab height in the office area.


    Hopefully posting this will help. As it is a small project, I don't mind re-doing all of it in 10.08 if that solves the problem. Also, I am clearly inferring, as Lew did in his related post, that there is something amiss with foundations and X1, particularly once a garage room is introduced. This is not meant to cut further into X1's armour, we all know it is a work in progress. I just need to solve this problem.

    Thanks,
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    Allen, I am going to try that. The way I built the space was to first call the entire open area a garage and then build the rooms. Maybe calling all three garages would set the bathroom door and wall bottoms correctly, but it still does not explain why the floors don't show.
    Rich C. SDSInc
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    Rich
    It doesn't work.
    Your putting walls in a garage but the room floors still want to build at the top of the foundation.

    No idea how to do it right now..
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
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    Good news/bad news
    Figured it out.
    Build it on the foundation level with pony walls.
    Not sure how easy it will be to change yours over..
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    Chief Architect X4






 

 

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