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    Plumbing ISO Drawings

    We do alot of submittal to the state for plumbing approvals. We are looking for symbols, pre drawn systems, etc. This allows us to build a specific plumbing system that has been approved by the state and does not need local inspection. Not sure if there are stock drawings for lav drains, shower drains, or even complete bathrooms. I have looked into buying a symbol package for plumbing but they only give you a list and no views. Its hard to justify $300 on something you can't make sure will work. It is all for residential construction.

    Any help, thoughts, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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    Here is a plumbing diagram I did recently for a small private commercial kitchen. This is just a orthogonal overview in chief where I put everything except the fixtures on their own layer and did a grey line weight to put them in the background somewhat. Then you can just do all the DWV stuff with heavier orthogonal lines and some notes. The building department had only requested the DWV but you could add in the water supplies as well. Not sure if this is exactly what you're after.
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    Bryce:

    I like this .....

    I like that it can be done in Chief as I really despise the old traditional way of doing the riser diagrams.

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    Thanks Lew,
    I've seen a couple of old-school diagrams on other drawings and this is pretty much the same as I've seen, just with the fixture and wall background to help it out visually. It helps that I've actually done a lot of plumbing myself, otherwise I might just leave it to a plumb./mech. consultant. Probably would for larger projects.

    As Dan has mentioned in another post, maybe they can include the DWV and water supply pipes in their move towards more effective BIM, who knows?

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    Bryce, I like what you do. This gives a good overview of what is to happen. Currently we are just drawing the basic lines (no background, fixtures, etc.) standard iso drawings. How long do something like that take?

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    Bryce;

    You continue to surprise. How about if the fixtures were done in a light gray scale with the DWV, water, & gas in the darker lines with appropriate line styles. This is one of the nicest plumbing ISO's I've seen in a lot of years.

    Oh by the way, hello fellow plumber, I started out working for my dad as a plumber and that's my first contractors license. Served my apprenticeship in Scottsdale, Arizona in 1966 (still have my card).
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    Thanks all. It really doesn't take that much longer than drawing the ISO lines and notes. Just do your orthogoal vector view, no color, maybe delete some surfaces, convert to CAD, convert all the CAD lines to grey (put them on their own layer and lock it), and draw the ISO lines and notes. That whole drawing couldn't have taken more than 30 minutes.

    Good suggestions George. This was for a very small private commercial kitchen and the clients were on a very tight budget so I stuck to just what the building deparment asked for and that was just the DWV.

    I have been getting more commercial restaurant work lately so may have opportunities to improve on this.

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    That's kinda' the direction I was headed.

    Thot, with my computer's unlimited capabilities, why should [U]I[U] have to draw the pipes.

    Until then, I'll go this way.

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    Bryce,

    Nice looking drawing. I made a copy of it for future reference.

    I was in a time crunch so I ended up doing the plumbing schematic's in Autocad Lt.

    Clare

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    Clare:


    Here is another method for 3D schematics

    There are 3 layersets for the risers, choose the layerset and then click the camera and then send to layout


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