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06-08-2007, 06:50 AM #1
Speeding up X1
From another forum, wanted to pass along. Likely not news to everyone, but just as likely will help someone as it did me.
Originally Posted by Allen BrownOriginally Posted by Allen BrownAllen Brown
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06-08-2007, 07:23 AM #2Special Projects Director
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Double Buffer drawing means the image is drawn off screen then the whole image is pasted to screen. When you turn this off you get more flickering.
We would also like to see if the machines being affected can be fixed by lowering hardware accelleration by one notch. We cannot reproduce this problem in house but know that a hand full of users are experiencing this issue.Dan Park,
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06-08-2007, 07:27 AM #3can be fixed by lowering hardware accelleration by one notchAllen Brown
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06-08-2007, 07:31 AM #4Special Projects Director
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Right click your desktop and choose properties. I think it's the settings tab on the properties dialog that has an advanced option. In the advanced settings go to troubleshoot and there is a hardware accelleration slider. Move it down a notch at a time and see if it makes a difference.
Thanks,Dan Park,
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06-08-2007, 07:56 AM #5
I have tried the two different hardware settings, with and without double buffering checked, and can't seem to visually notice a difference. However, just unchecking the double buffering made a substantial difference. In refreshing elevation views, I could see a difference in the way it redrew, (double buffering did it all in the background, then displayed the elevation all at once...unchecked drew it on screen one panel at a time) but the time frame seemed to be identical.
I believe I will leave it unchecked, and hardware acceleration down a notch, and consider it improved.
Good luck LouisAllen Brown
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06-08-2007, 08:27 AM #6
Possible Graphic Card issue?
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06-08-2007, 08:49 AM #7Semi-competent User
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Is this related to the fact that the orbit camera tool in vector views is essentially useless once you have any detailing in the plan. For example, the Riverstone sample plan recalculates repeatedly as the program tries to rotate the model. Does this do this for everyone? If so, I am amazed it was released with this tool for it might as well be a crash because you can only stop it by pressing ESC. Otherwise, you could sit there forever watching it recalculate as it tries to move.
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06-08-2007, 08:51 AM #8
GPICKREN, you are correct with that. Too slow.
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06-08-2007, 09:00 AM #9
Glen,
When I open that plan, go to vector full overview, and rotate with mouse, it takes 7 seconds per view. Definitely not fast enough, but not what I would call crash mode, and I don't run into the problem of having to hit escape to stop it.
If I go to low detail, it is just under 1 second per redraw.Allen Brown
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06-08-2007, 09:07 AM #10Semi-competent User
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Allen, how much did you rotate the view? Try rotating it 90 or 180 degrees so you can view another side and tell me how long before the model is finished rotating.
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06-08-2007, 09:19 AM #11
Glen,
What method are you using to rotate 90 deg or 180 deg at once?Allen Brown
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06-08-2007, 09:23 AM #12
Back with ver 9.x if you held the ctrl key or shift key, I don't remember which, then Chief would hold off doing the rendering until the moving was completed ?
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06-08-2007, 09:27 AM #13Semi-competent User
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Allen, I opened the plan and selected the full overview vector camera and an image was generated in about the time you describe. The mouse pointer is now showing the camera orbit symbol. Now, left click on the right side of the image and try to drag it to the left to rotate the vector image to where the right side faces the front and see what happens.
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06-08-2007, 09:31 AM #14
My computer, Riverstone plan, X1, Vector full overview, hold shift button down, hit right arrow 18 times, let up shift button, plan will rotate 180 degrees, takes about 7 seconds once I let go of the shift.
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06-08-2007, 09:39 AM #15
OK Glen, now I see what's going on. If you do that exact thing, and let go of the mouse, it will continue to spin indefinitely. If you do that, but keep the left mouse button held down until the model stops, it will regen 2-3 times until it catches up with your mouse, then stop, at 6-7 seconds per re-draw (for me).
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