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    lowered ceiling dotted line

    I have occasionally come across the problem of creating roof planes that result in an interior area that has a reduced ceiling height (desired effect). chief automatically draws in dotted lines at these locations. I want to display the plans with out these lines showing what do I do? I cant select them and I dont even know if they exist on a specific layer.
    thanks

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    thanks i will give it a try

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    Brett:

    I have found it informative to set the ceiling heights to 6'8"
    and then draw "invisible walls" where those dotted lines are and then set the ceiling heights back as needed.

    then I create a new layer called "HEADROOM" and set the room fill to a soft red color and it gives a visual as to where there is "proper" headroom.

    Lew
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    These lines should be displayed on plans...
    Without them it gives the appearance that the rooms are bigger than they are..
    They are import lines for the person building the house to..
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen42acj
    These lines should be displayed on plans...
    Without them it gives the appearance that the rooms are bigger than they are..
    They are import lines for the person building the house to..
    Unfortunately if you manually build roofs not all of these lines are accurate. Expecially in a dormer situation created manually after an automatic roof generation.

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    Jay,I never noticed that before.Thanks,I will keep an eye on it..
    I was thinking Capes where rooms look bigger at the eve sides.Have seen them with bathrooms and the shower against the knee wall.5' tall shower doesn't work next to a 4' wall..
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
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    Allen:

    That's why I like a visual guide as to where the 6'8" headroom's are.

    Lew
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    Lew
    I understand what you do and think it is a good idea..
    But Brett wanted to have PLANS without ceiling lines,as a framing,it is easier to read with them..
    Do you use your lines on plans or just for you?
    I wonder how a box would work for that..
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
    Residential Design Drafting/Framer

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    The builder doesn't need the lines and on the permit set we show the headroom graphic on the floorplan.

    Lew
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    Castle Golden Design - "We make dreams visible"

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    And don't forget, the permiting/tax agency should only be getting square footage info to those dotted lines, not to the lower ceiling areas. It is not living space and should not be taxable.
    Karl Koning, Registered Architect - WA, CPBD
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    Karl
    Interesting idea.My Mom's house is very old,all the ceilings are around 6"4"..
    Maybe she shouldn't be paying taxes?
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
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    Chief Architect X4






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    Check into it as 'grandfathering' plays a part of all this. Since I stand 6'-5" I would not call 6'-4" livable space. Of course you don't want the space condemned either.
    Karl Koning, Registered Architect - WA, CPBD
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    Yes, I'm 6'-8" and I need much more than that also. I guess that number should be whatever it should be.

    perry

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    there are several different numbers that can be used
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