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  1. #31
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    They don't stop changing their minds till the house is sold..
    When building a house I snap all the lines on the floor with red caulk(last forever)so they can see where walls will be.
    Even then,I tack the plates down and ask 1 more time if they like it before building the inside partitions..
    So maybe "last" is when the people are moving in,just before the remodeling starts..
    .........

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    As mentioned, views created from "view to cad" will not update if the model changes, however if you send the cad view to layout and you want to change that cad detail such as deleting all lines that make a window and extend siding lines across the opening, these changes will update to your layout as long as the layout is open, relinked, and in the same folder.
    I've had sucess with updating layouts this way, after changes by the customer where make, but they were simple minor changes, that could be done in the cad detail created from a "cad to view".
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    For me in this case never mind the owner, the exterior redesign approval process is completely dependent and controlled by how the Historical Commission feels about the elevations with respect to the changes being proposed. And the design review subcommittee is made up by an architect who has practiced now 53 years, a young engineer for the State of New York, and a history major from Harvard. If I don't pass through them I will never make it it through the full commission.

    Kevin

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    The disadvanage is that the view no longer interact with your plan and if a change is made the view to cad version does not update to reflect the changes.


    Dan:

    But it does interact and update, just not automatically.

    You just have to take the "shot" again, using the saved camera.

    Just follow the steps I outlined above and you can have an
    updated view to cad with all your text and edits.



    Concerning the user changing their mind:

    What I do is create a presentation layout that has views sent
    straight to the layout from the plan or .JPG's that I make from the plan and then paste into the layout.

    I then do a presentation or two or three with the client to get their approval and get a "signoff" that everything is set.

    Then and only do I go to phase 4 and create the layout for the permit docs or the construction docs. If they make change after that then I charge them for having to revise the PD's or CD's.

    I just had that happen, after the PD's were created the builder asked us to remove the chimney and to add another deck connecting rear deck to breezeway to garage. These changes required re-doing just about every page in the PD set. I will be charging for that time

    Lew
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    Lew
    Your missing the point of using view to cad.
    You do that so you can edit the lines and clean it up..
    View to cad is not a perfect picture every time..
    If you spend hours getting it to look the best you can and then have to do it again,It's lost work..
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    Allen Colburn Jr.
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  6. #36
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    I can see Lew's point, but I will likely continue to do it the way that I currently do.

    The cross section will continue to contain the cad items added and therefore these items will not be lost when a view to cad is done. All the clean up of the cad view will need to be done - The clean up will need to be done to both.

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    It's lost work..


    Yes, it is

    But there's no way around that unless the need to cleanup lines
    is eliminated.

    What's "time saved" is when you add text and dimension lines and other "edits" to the view that are ADDED to the view to cad and saved with the camera. Those remain intact and don't have to be repeated


    Lew
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    Lew
    I'll try your way.But have a feeling just having an elevation is better like Dan does it..
    Think I understand what is being said..
    .........

    Allen Colburn Jr.
    Pascoag RI 02859
    Residential Design Drafting/Framer

    Drafter for:
    http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

    Chief Architect X4






 

 

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