How do I save the "view to cad"?

[joey3032]

The text will not save ....it's a new "view to cad" detail

[joey3032]

Lew, I think you have confused yourself...and quite frankly me too

I have used your method, step by step as you say....no text...pic 1 is a front elevation with the text added, pic 2 is the front elevation with the dormer windows removed, saved the camera view, view to CAD yada, yada...NO TEXT IN NEW CAD VIEW!!

[lbuttery]

I just worked on a plan and did this for many elevations and they all retained the text ? I had a devil of time figuring out where the text was being saved until I read the manual and found that it is saved with the camera.

1. using the white camera create a cross section/elevation and add text and arrows etc. to it from CAD mode then return to camera mode and
save the camera.

2. Now do a view to cad, and give it a name, say, TEST_ELEVATION

3. close the cad detail dbx and the cad detail

4. close the cross section/ elevation

5. You should now see your saved camera in the plan

6. update your plan by adding a window (or some other edit)

7. click on the saved camera and then click on the yellow camera icon to open the saved camera cross section/elevation

8. there is your updated view AND the saved text/edits.

9. do another View to CAD and it will create a CAD detail called "elevation 1"

10. Delete cad detail TEST_ELEVATION and then rename "elevation 1" as TEST_ELEVATION

11. send TEST_ELEVATION to layout


Lew

[MikePreble1]

Try this as practice.

Draw a simple house with a door and window. Take a cross section - back clipped elevation view through the door and window wall. In that view add a piece of text. Close the window: "Do you want to save this camera?" Click on yes.

Back in plan view. Add something, like another window or door. Subtract something, like a window or door.

Now, find the saved camera that's visible (should be visible) in plan view. Right click on it and then find the Yellow camera icon in the menu that shows up. Click to open this camera view, which already contains some text.

Same view. Should contain the changed items. Should also contain the text you already entered. Leave the text. Add text. Delete text. Change text.

Mike

PS You can move this camera in plan view and it will still maintain the text, even though the view is/could be different.

[zoome]

The advantage to using view to cad is that you have more control over all the lines since they are cad lines. The disadvanage is that the view no longer interact with your plan and if a change is made the view to cad version does not update to reflect the changes.

I personally do not use view to cad but I do put up with a few stray lines that I cannot select or change in any way.

Zoome

[Allen42acj]

View to cad makes the view you are looking at a picture of just cad lines .Same as taking a picture in real life of a person.If that person moves the picture will not update..
Main reason to do the cad is you can edit the lines and make sure it looks good.
Time to re-watch the tutorials?

[kevin walker]

Thanks Allen. I would like to do more with cad views because they are a bit cleaner and I have more control over the final view. Yesterday when I posted this question I was under the gun to finish a line drawing of an existing historical structure project to be reviewed by a historical design review subcommittee for them to make recommendations or comments prior to the plan going before the full board of review and ultimately a public hearing. And I wasn't ready to put the plans to layout just yet as I think you could understand why. After getting what I thought was a "view to cad" all ready I realized that I had missed an existing basement window. Now in a panic I wandered how do I fix this? I guess if "cad to view" is going to be used be careful before using.

Kevin

[Allen42acj]

Kevin
Your welcome..
It's always when your in a hurry that mistakes happen.You could have added a cad window in the cad view.
Depends on what would have taken longer..
The tutorials explain about doing the cad view last.
I don't mind someone here pointing out my mistakes,and glad they do before a client notices it before I do..

[zoome]

"The tutorials explain about doing the cad view last."

What the book does not elplain is when last is.

That is why I put up with a few stray lines now and again.

Zoome

[Allen42acj]

Dan
What ever works for the person doing it..
Not going cad works for you..
Last would be sending to layout for me..
I was posting for people that are using cad view..I wouldn't try to tell you or any of the other advanced users how to or what is better..
Hope you didn't think I was..

[zoome]

I did not take it that way at all.

I just choose to skip that final step in order to get final plans out the door without spending a lot of time getting the plans from 95% to 100%.

My clients make far too many changes after the "final" plans are released to justify cleaning up a view to cad for me.

I have heard from my clients too many times thinkgs like,

- oops, I wanted the garage on the other sides;
- Lets add a window here;
- Lets remove this window;
- I think I want to use window wraps instead of shutters;
- I only want window grids on the front elevation on this house ... The list is endless.

Most of what I do is for builders and they seem to not know exactly what they want and almost alway make changes after a point where I would expect to do a view to cad.

Zoome

[Allen42acj]

They don't stop changing their minds till the house is sold..
When building a house I snap all the lines on the floor with red caulk(last forever)so they can see where walls will be.
Even then,I tack the plates down and ask 1 more time if they like it before building the inside partitions..
So maybe "last" is when the people are moving in,just before the remodeling starts..

[kevin walker]

For me in this case never mind the owner, the exterior redesign approval process is completely dependent and controlled by how the Historical Commission feels about the elevations with respect to the changes being proposed. And the design review subcommittee is made up by an architect who has practiced now 53 years, a young engineer for the State of New York, and a history major from Harvard. If I don't pass through them I will never make it it through the full commission.

Kevin

[lbuttery]

The disadvanage is that the view no longer interact with your plan and if a change is made the view to cad version does not update to reflect the changes.


Dan:

But it does interact and update, just not automatically.

You just have to take the "shot" again, using the saved camera.

Just follow the steps I outlined above and you can have an
updated view to cad with all your text and edits.



Concerning the user changing their mind:

What I do is create a presentation layout that has views sent
straight to the layout from the plan or .JPG's that I make from the plan and then paste into the layout.

I then do a presentation or two or three with the client to get their approval and get a "signoff" that everything is set.

Then and only do I go to phase 4 and create the layout for the permit docs or the construction docs. If they make change after that then I charge them for having to revise the PD's or CD's.

I just had that happen, after the PD's were created the builder asked us to remove the chimney and to add another deck connecting rear deck to breezeway to garage. These changes required re-doing just about every page in the PD set. I will be charging for that time

Lew

[Jim Rogers]

As mentioned, views created from "view to cad" will not update if the model changes, however if you send the cad view to layout and you want to change that cad detail such as deleting all lines that make a window and extend siding lines across the opening, these changes will update to your layout as long as the layout is open, relinked, and in the same folder.
I've had sucess with updating layouts this way, after changes by the customer where make, but they were simple minor changes, that could be done in the cad detail created from a "cad to view".