Who says clients don't pay for modeling?

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Bob
I humbly apologize , please forgive me
sometimes my mouth gets ahead of my brain,

As far as out of state engineering etc, there are many who dont live in a state adn have a correct stamp

4-seasons sunrooms, a wet stamp for every state
Viceroy Cedar Homes, same
Lindal Cedar Homes

and I can tell you , from experience, wiht every one of them, its true
the 4-season is based out of NY, they do not have an Oregon engineer
same with Viceroy

so they are out there

someone knows how to outsource it , even if just a sate away

Jason, yep your right, even if Im chump change, haveing a "ace in the hole" is a nice help

so Wendy, who was your outsource on that, was it Bob, Jason, or................