I agree, I just posted the same question in both, not knowing who is looking where.
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I agree, I just posted the same question in both, not knowing who is looking where.
Well the stated reasons all have to do with making life easier for them - so I guess the folks who actually USE the forum for the forums intended purpose don't matter so much.
And another thing I have noticed with many of the various forum "upgrades" I have encountered is the increasing use of white space for no apparent reason with the result is there is a good deal less information per screen.
This is a good thing how?
I totally understand what everyone is saying here.
First, I will say this again, one year is a date that is not set in stone. If we feel there is a lot of value at the end of one year we can consider an extension.
The goal here is to provide a single sign on experience. That was not possible with Vbulletin.
There are some serious security reasons as well. You may notice the new site is 100% https.
Vbulletin has never been able to effectively prevent spammers and hackers.
The new forum should effectively put up a huge road block to that problem. Since we now write and maintain the signup code, we can assure your data is much more secure than software where the source code is public.
I am not happy that we had to make this transition either. It's not something we take lightly. However, it has to be done.
We need to identify the best items on this site and make them available on the new forum or in another format, such as help articles.
None of us want to loose the content available on this site. So long as it continues to provide good value to our users we will continue to provide access.
Hey Dan, I get it, you guys definitely have your reasons, but there are a few navigational issues that should be solved if possible.
1. Newest posts on top of window
2. An easier way to attach attachments, I just tried with a new post and also a post I was editing and I did not see the ADD ATTACHMENT OPTION. I had to start a new REPLY, maybe I am missing something..... whatever, I could not find it.
BTW, is this CA's forum format you guys created or are you guys using something akin to vbulletin that I assume is an OOB program that you guys bought off the shelf, just curious.
REALLY appreciate your response Dan! I know my words are easy to type but really, it's great to have an explanation and to know you are indeed solving a problem that could jeopardize some part of your business. Thanks for taking the time.
REALLY appreciate your response too Dan! Should have known there was a good reason.
Am I missing something but there appears to be no link on the web page to the new forum. It links to this one then we go through the green box.
I would like to be able to just click a link and have the forum available to read just like now. If I have to log in every time I would not use it as frequently.
History repeating itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria
You should post that on the new forum;)
Although I'm not certain ChiefTalk can be compared at the same level as the Library of Alexandria.
I couldn't agree more about the "white space" - a total waste of space! :-)
I'll mention a couple of other things about the new board while I'm here.
How do you delete a post that you have posted?
Why doesn't the "View First Unread" button become available at ALL times when there are unread posts in a thread?
I don't like the extra white space either.
"The goal here is to provide a single sign on experience. That was not possible with Vbulletin."
Dan, I don't like to use my login information from the digital locker to login to the forum. I don't understand the risk, that's why I'm not comfortable.
OK ... for some reason I am able to access the new forum now. I turned down my security level one notch ... maybe that is what did it?
Went through and read the 4 pages of Q&A top see what I was missing. Now I am trying to figure out what it takes to become a participant on the new forum.
When I click on "Create Account" I am just directed to the new forum's home page ... same goes for when I click on "Sign In". Next, I went to Announcements and clicked on the thread for the new forumn, then I clicked on the "user handle" link but again the new forum's home page opens but I am obviously restricted as a viewer only and have no ability to start a new thread, post on an existing thread, view the forum members by clicking on that tab, etc.
So, what is the secret to getting a user handle, signing in, creating an account (if I need to do that) and be a "functioning" member of the forum. I apparently only have two-weeks to get this sorted out or I am going to get flushed into Lake Coeur d'Alene and be gone forever (not that anyone would miss me ... but I would miss everyone else).
Help!!!! Thanks.
I don't see a single sign on as being a good thing.
If you think VBulletin is not secure enough, fine, change out the front end - you don't need to toss the whole thing.
And even if you want to have your own code base (that's fine too) don't change the current appearance just for the sake of change - change it because WE complained about something.
Frankly I don't care what your developers think of the site, they don't have to use it, WE do, and WE buy your products not your developers.