Eyebrow dormer question

This may be "any type" of dormer question. I have a 20'x20' pavilion with a flared hip roof and a 14" overhang. The hipped roof is 8/12. The bottom 4' has a flared pitch of 5 5/8 pitch and a radius of -154". I'm trying to install a eyebrow dormer with a round top fixed window 36"Hx72W flush with the outer wall below. No matter where I set the dormer CA won't let me install it. I've tried making it only 1/4 the size and it still won't go. Does it have something to do with the dormer starting on the flared section and extending up onto the regular pitched area? If this isn't the case I'm lost. If it is the case, is there such a thing as a work around? Are there any good videos on the subject? It's one of those frustrating days (or maybe too much coffee). Before anyone ask the plan is too large to show. As always all advice is greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by lgswe

This may be "any type" of dormer question. I have a 20'x20' pavilion with a flared hip roof and a 14" overhang. The hipped roof is 8/12. The bottom 4' has a flared pitch of 5 5/8 pitch and a radius of -154". I'm trying to install a eyebrow dormer with a round top fixed window 36"Hx72W flush with the outer wall below. No matter where I set the dormer CA won't let me install it. I've tried making it only 1/4 the size and it still won't go. Does it have something to do with the dormer starting on the flared section and extending up onto the regular pitched area? If this isn't the case I'm lost. If it is the case, is there such a thing as a work around? Are there any good videos on the subject? It's one of those frustrating days (or maybe too much coffee). Before anyone ask the plan is too large to show. As always all advice is greatly appreciated.

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Larry, you must be kidding, do you really think somebody is going to be able to reproduce this plan to help you out? There are ways to post ANY plan or portion thereof, if it is too much trouble for you to post, it is too much trouble for me to figure out.............. but I am sure somebody will do it for you.

Scott -- Dropbox location for plan http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49042923/Ber...Hip%20Roof.zip. Here's the work in progress. Each side is different to show the client options in case you are wondering. I think the problem has to do with the "dormer box" falling outside the roof plane along with the dormer attaching on two different roof planes. Should be a way to over come the problem.

Larry, I have it figured out, I had to unblock your auto dormer and then I could move it to correct location, however the dormer was bigger than the roof I wanted to put it on so I had to slide the dormer down page 6" so it would fit on your roof....... I did not do a perfect job but I did find the problem..... will post 3 part video when done...... 7 minutes into 2nd video is when I figured out the issue.

Here is a link to the videos

http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread....624#post433624

thanks Larry, neat stuff you are doing..... I learned a bit from this....

Thanks Scott for taking time. It seems every project I get is real unusual. I do many types of reproductions and they always have lots of molding details to match the earlier periods. I do a lot of head scratching and I try to tell my wife that's the reason I'm losing my hair. Ha! Have a great day.

Scott,

I watched your video on the eyebrow dormer and it helped me with a standard eyebrow, but since you like challenges, do you think CA can model this kind of English eyebrow dormer correctly?
I await your next video! :-)
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JT-have a look here:
http://www.chieftutor.com/roof/eyebrow.html

Do you want a sloped eyebrow dormer.

Yes, that is it. How did you do that?

JT, read the thread, don't just look at the last post.
There is a link to a video above Bills teaser post.