-3" Porch Level Vs Level of 1st Down Tread

I am using 9.03 so if this problem is a quirk of this version that has been fixed in subsequent upgrades, I will be out of luck.

I have a front covered "Porch" type room that has a -3"(negative 3 inch) Floor Level relative to the 0" Floor Level of the Home. When I create a "Down" Staircase off of this Porch to grade, the first tread (7" Brick Riser, BTW) is only 4" below the Porch. It seems that all stairs function off the 0" Floor Level. For the life of me, I can't figure out to trick this! The "make the first tread a landing" trick mentioned recently does not work because it's Railing is NOT a Stair Railing.

Should I quit trying to find a solution?

I actually prefer to make Brick Steps out of Polylines Converted to Slabs but I haven’t found a quick way to put Railings on them . . .

Hi Clarke
How come you can not upgrade?I thought 9.5 was a free one from 9..

It has to be mailed, can't be downloaded. At least, that's what I have found in the past. Just never got around to having it mailed.

Dragging it down from the deck works right for me in 10..
You could try having the porch at 0,draw the stairs and then drop the floor,see the stairs go down..

It has to be mailed, can't be downloaded

I think it is still available and is only $20 or so.

The update from 9.5 to 9.53 was a free download.

Lew

I just tried it with your dims. with an older version (9.54) and it works well. Don't know what the problem might be.

Curious why the porch floor level only 3" vs the normal step-down? Try setting it to -7", then put the steps in with the shift key. Does this do anything?????

Curious why the porch floor level only 3"

Al:

with remodels I have seen this on numerous existing houses.

I have it with my house.

Lew

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Curious why the porch floor level only 3"

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If you ever have to put in a ramp, less is better. You just need enough drop for drainage with slope. I usually use 2 inches.

I am a Remodeler so the -3" Porch Level is actually that in reality. These homes from the early part of the 1900's have thick door sills!

This is a drawing of a Brick Porch with Concrete Floor System, the Brick Foundation walls have to come up to top of the concrete floor to simulate this. I had used the "Floor for This Room is Supplied by the Foundation 'Room' from the Floor Below" and that seemed to be the problem. When I unchecked that and then specified the floor thickness off the concrete as 0 (zero), it fixed the problem. Seems like the stair wants to work off the BOTTOM of the concrete, but when the concrete is zero the top and bottom of the concrete is the same.

Just another quirk of the program I will forget by the next time I need it! :o

Thank you EVERYONE, your kindness and concern is greatly appreciated! Your suggestions showed me the way.

Sincerely, Clarke