Hi All......having a moment here....cant remember how many steps or distance I need from my finsih floor to a garage finish floor....I must be really tired....any help thanks, POP
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Hi All......having a moment here....cant remember how many steps or distance I need from my finsih floor to a garage finish floor....I must be really tired....any help thanks, POP
Pop:
I think the recommended (maybe code ???) is 7 3/4" or 8" this is to keep water runoff out of the house and also gas fumes
Lew
May also depend on the floor thickness...ie. joist depth.
thanks, guys....I am working on someones plan not mine and not sure of the height from garage fin. floor to first floor finish floor....I guessing with what I measure ... its a 4 in. drop to a platform from finish floor and I am going with 8 in. rises to garage floor...my best guess.....thanks for your reply as always...POP
Pop:
here is the IRC code reference and it doesn't cover height
old CABO code required 4"
check with your permit office as each locale can be different, even if they use the IRC they can modify it
The IRC states:
R309.1 Opening protection.
Openings from a private garage
directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted.
Other openings between the garage and residence shall
be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 13/8 inches (35
mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less
than 13/8 inches (35 mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
Lew
I'm told It was removed from IRC 2006, and is no longer a 4" min. requirement.
Perhaps someone can verify this ... It was brought to my attention when I was bidding on a new home and questioned why there was no step or gas curb.????
Doug:
The IRC code I posted doesn't reference the 4"
I think it should, as it protects against water runoff and gas fumes
Lew
They might have taken it out to make room for codes that don't make sense..
They might have taken it out to make room for codes that don't make sense..
Allen:
Behave....
Is it time for another beer :)
Lew
This was removed to allow for accessibility and visit-ability issues. No ramps needed in garages now.Quote:
The IRC code I posted doesn't reference the 4"
I think it should, as it protects against water runoff and gas fumes
Fumes can be removed via ventilation in the garage.
Accessibility from the garage is not required, even in multi-family product that clearly falls under ADA guidelines.
I would never provide drawings to a builder or custom client that does not have a minimum of a 4" step down to the garage.
And VERY rarely would the site conditions even allow for such a thing.
My 2 cents...
This was removed to allow for accessibility and visit-ability issues. No ramps needed in garages now.
Joey:
that makes sense
Lew
I'm pretty sure the original IRC never had a provision for gas curbs. Local jursidictions have added that provision as part of their local amendments to the IRC.
Here in Oregon, it has never been required, but I know of other places where 6" is the commonly amended height required from garage to house.
Years have gone by and I've built my share of garages, in NJ. In every instance a gas curb or 4" min. step was required if it was an attached garage. I unfortuatley don't have any of my old copies of BOCA code books (which were then in force) to acually look it up. And even then I'm not sure if it would be in it. I can remember on plans done by others if it didn't have one, it did when I picked up my permits...from the Build. Dept. in red ink, "Gas Curb Required" Personally I still think it's not a bad idea. If a ramp is required due to handicap, so be it, fuels and/or such aren't going make it up the ramp.Quote:
Originally Posted by builderlfd
Doug
You know how a big a ramp you'll need to make it up that 4"? :eek: :p
With all the codes that are over the top, that one is a good idea.
Hey Allen, crazy ain't it?
Hi Doug
Did you enjoy your vacation?
Back to rain here..
FYI & FWIW...Quote:
Originally Posted by DougM
BOCA 1993 & 1996
Section 407.0 Private Garages
407.5 Door Sills: The sills of all door openings between private garages and the adjacent interior spaces shall be raised not less than 4 inches (102 mm) above the garage floor.
This showed up recently in the JLC, and it reminded me of this past discussion. Thought it might prove interesting to some of you.
http://www.jlconline.com/cgi-bin/jlc...a9ba52ec3bdfe1
When I got my C.A.P.S. Designation (Certified Aging In Place Specialist), we have been designing the garage floors with 0" between the garage and the house. It takes a little extra work, but allows someone to move from the vehicle to the house while in a wheelchair.
I don't do every house that way, but many.
There are those who still use BOCA????wow...memories oh those memories.